what do jw's think jesus was doing until 1914?
and if satan is ruling everything now, what is jesus doing now?
(in jw minds) it seems to me they believe the 'gates of hell' have prevailed.
I ask them what has Jesus been doing SINCE 1914! I can't believe that at one time I blindly accepted it as true because we all know WW1 started that same year!
uuuuhhhhhg....so now I ask them, where exactly IS Jesus. Is He floating around the upper atmosphere invisible to the naked eye sitting and drifting around on His special chair? The Bible even says He will return the same way He left. I guess that also is symbolic.
for me, it would be my daughter.
my only child.
a married woman---but always still my little girl.
There are so many people in my life I would be crushed to lose. All my children, their loved ones, grandchildren, dear hubby, mom, sister, MIL's, FIL's, friends....there are only, is only maybe one person that would not bother me to die. He is evil and never was sorry for what he did.
John I did that for several years while I rested my weary head and heart. The beautiful world will be waiting for you when you decide to come back. I did. Love~Kate
hi there, does anyone have any rock solid arguments that cant be 'dodged around' by the jw's, i still go to the ocasional meeting (about every month or so) just to keep contact with my friends, (i know its crazy) but if i was to ever tell them how i feel does anyone have any good things to start with?
like the whole un thing that happened?
and an easy way to exsplain it?
Hi Lonely and welcome to the Forum.
The UN has been a conversation starter for sure. I started one like this "Did you know that we were members of the UN? crazy huh" but my suggestion would be to let it happen as natural as possible. When an oppurtunity arrises and you feel confident ease into it. If you get marked as an independant thinker with a dangerous mind, you may only get that one shot. So take is as slow as you feel the need to.
Slowly revealing a little Watchtower past gets some to thinking too. I know I was shocked to learn that Bethel used to celebrate Christmas and so many changes have taken place. No need to win any arguments until you are ready to be marked or disfellowshipped, that is a big step.
Continue in your research and learning for personal growth and you will see doors open up to share what you discover. Love~Kate; apostate from the WTBTS, never from God.
i was at some friends' house last night (ex dubs) and another friend, dan (another ex-dub) was there.
we got on the subject of the cross and surprisingly, dan still believes that jesus died on a "torture stake" instead of a cross.
i was surprised and told him that there is ample historical evidence that shows the romans used crosses for cruxifiction as it had been around long before jesus' time.
Secular PBS site I use;
they will never prevent the truth about their satanic religion.
http://watchtower-quotes.ath.cx/ .
keep cool .
It's times like these I wish I had deeper intellectual capacities. I'm so confused. I started to download a mirror but wasn't sure my old puter can handle it so I stopped. What else can I do to help? Thank you everyone for using your smarts and computer knowledge to keep the site up.
a fanatical jw...
-thinks the tsunami and hurrican katrina are signs the satan is becoming more resilient in his quest to take over the world!.
-keeps tracts in their back pocket to place in the grocery line.. -thinks dr. phil is "satan's little helper".
A fanatical JW will never acidently say "good luck", or...
"God bless you" when someone sneezes, for heavens sake they may accidently bless someone who is one of those evil slave apostates or something. What a mess that would be.
hi, i'm fairly new to this site but i downloaded a film about one hour long on the history of the jehovah's witnesses!
i found it to be very good but i doubt that i could get someone (jehovah's witness) to watch it since they are ordered not to watch anything that might enlighten them event though the film is all truth supported by there own watchtower publications!
if any one is looking to see this film do a search for jerimiah films in limewire or kazaa, etc.... i know theres a lot of crap on these download sites but there are also good stuff!
Mouthy we need to talk.
If I could show just one film together with my testimony, which one would you suggest?
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i hestitated to write this on xmas day and i hate to get anyone down, but i hope you understand and maybe send prayers my way.. .
dear friends i don't know how to even put my pain in words, or my great loss.
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So sorry for your tragic loss.
merry christmas all on christmas eve my partner and i visited her mom for christmas and for the first time in 5 years i went to a religious service.
it was at peace lutherin church in sioux falls, south dakota.
keeping to topic, the marqee stated four service arrangments starting at 3:30pm, 5pm (which we went to had 400 +/_ in attendance), 6:30, and 10pm.
I love my church and church family. There is no comparison to the Kingdom Hall. My church family are there because they love God and want to help make the community a better place.
After I was free from the Watchtower, I heard a pastor on a local radio station from www.calvarychapel.com . I connected with what he was saying. I researched him and the church for doctinal beliefs. Searched for errors. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me! I agreed with their doctrine and went, alone, nervous, not knowing what to expect.
There I grew and learned what a real functioning church was. Helped with different charities funded by the church. I loved the sweet peaceful feeling I felt when I first started going. So different from the feeling of total stress and emptyness I felt at the KH.
Love to all~Kate
having recently experienced the trauma of watching a loved one proudly refuse blood despite being told it was medically necessary and that refusing it would be extremely risky, i realized exactly where i stand in life.
in addition to my childhood being exploited and made miserable by the watchtower cult, that same cult now threatens to take loved ones from me via the blood policy.. .
so, on this day after christmas, i am raging mad, and i want to express my christmas wish for the governing body, the subhuman gristle responsible for this illogical and despicable blood policy.
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Love to you friend.
